Three examples from the reading that punishment doesn't work is because Instead, we fool ourselves into thinking that we are not angry at our children, that we are merely instructing them, and we then get to enjoy hurting them with punishments without feeling bad about recognizing what we are enjoying. Another reason Punishment makes them cry or look upset, and those tears and that look are reinforcers when parents are angry. (For most parents, too much damage to the child would be aversive.) If we weren’t so confused about aggression, we could acknowledge our anger at our children and engineer a constructive application of it instead of pretending we are not angry and letting it loose as punishment. The last reason The reliability of this phenomenon demonstrates that punishment does not change the tendency to engage in the behavior that was punished. Instead, it makes the person or the rat want to avoid the source of punishment
Punishment could lead to abusive parents
It does not help with morality
They will do it when you are away
1.) Sometimes, of course, punishment is necessary, like when you stop a child from running into a busy street. But if you want it to stick, you have to reinforce a behavior that competes with running into the street (like stopping and waiting for the light). You cannot count on punishment alone, or your kids will run into the street when you are not with them.
2.) Because the child is inhibited in your presence, it’s easy to think they would be inhibited in your absence. Punishment produces politeness, not morality. Thus, the inhibited, obedient child inadvertently reinforces the parent’s punitive behavior by acting obedient (for the sorts of parents who find obedient children reinforcing).
3.) As soon as the child thinks it’s not being watched (as soon as the situation seems different in some way), the tendency to engage in the behavior will reassert itself. Punished children do what was punished behind their parents’ backs, or as soon as they get to college.
it makes the person or the rat want to avoid the source of punishment, Punished children do what was punished behind their parents’ backs, or as soon as they get to college, the inhibited, obedient child inadvertently reinforces the parent’s punitive behavior by acting obedient for the sorts of parents who find obedient children reinforcing.
- Punishment Doesn't Work
1. Even if there is punishment for something it's possible that, that person will still do it again.
2. Punishment just makes them want to avoid the source of the punishment
3. Punishment makes them be sneaky, so they don't get caught or punished.
The 3 examples in the article that shows punishment doesn't work are when they get punished they are more than likely to go out and do the same thing. Another one is when they get punished its because you're upset and angry with them not because what they didn't was truly wrong and you arent going to talk to them about it. The last example is some parents don't stick too the punishment.
1. Simply punishing a child for running into the street instead of reinforcing them for waiting for the light
2. Creating a situation such as electrifying a lever that a rat presses. At first, he'll avoid it, but then over time when the shocks are stopped, he'll continue to press it.
3.Punishing your children when you're angry; while they may cry and get upset, making you think they understand the message, in reality they're only reacting to the punishment, not getting the "reinforcing message" the parent might be trying to send.
The rat was still tempted to press the lever after getting shocked. You can't depend on punishment to stop your child from running in the street when you're not with him.
Instead of reinforcing the rat to pull the lever, you punish it and electrocute it.
You can punish a kid for walking across a street while a bus is driving by, or you can reinforce the kid to not do it.
Uncontrolled and disobedient children make people angry, punishment just makes them cry.
when a kid is punished a kid is most likely going to do the same thing over and over again or go behind there parents backs. and say you get punished for something and you don't do it again but then in a few months or so you do the same thing. kids act different around there parents. punishment only makes the kid want to rebel and do it more and more.
punishment is a short time experience once you get punished for something you probably wont do it next time but you will the time after like the rat it avoided from getting shocked but the rat end up going back to the lever
Punishment didn't work for the rat because it eventually came back to testing the lever, but this time with caution. Punished children do what was punished behind their parents' backs because they are avoiding the punishment that they would usually get.
1. after punishment kids well eventually do it again when you're not there.
2. we do it as if we're not angry at the children so we can enjoy punishing them
3. it's not morality
Punishment is established to prevent or avoid another type of problem or scenario to occur. For example, the rat avoided the lever after he was shocked, once the scenario had changed and he hadn't been shocked for a while, he tried the lever again which demonstrated how punishment isn't useful. Next, parents who punish their kids only create a devious kid that sneaks around their parents back to do what they would commonly be punished for, therefor showing that punishment does not change the kid (or rat in the demonstration).
The rat being reinforced to the lever then shocking the rat only made the rat go away from the lever for a little the went right back to pressing the lever.
If you stop a child from running in a busty street if you just punish them then it wont be reinforced so they will do it again when you are not around.
As soon as the child is not being watched the child will do what he is not supposed to do.
They do what they got punished for when there parents aren't looking.